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JoeBobMack ๐Ÿšซ

Admission 1: This is random.
Admission 2: And maybe only related to writing stories somewhere in the as-yet-unexplored areas of my allegedly normal psyche!

Reading today about the increasing lack of participation of males aged 18-54 in the workforce, I ran across the term "NILF" - Not In Labor Force. It means those who are neither working nor looking for work. For women, most of these are engaged in child care or household duties, but for men, they seem to be mostly engaged in screen-based activities.

That's an interesting topic in itself, especially for those who believe that a post-scarcity economy we'll result in many people taking up new hobbies, doing creative stuff, helping their communities, etc. Seems like a lot of guys are going to play video games, and even that may be better than doom scrolling through social media.

Anyway, my head came up with NILFs vs. MILFs. I'm not sure why I thought "vs." which suggest some kind of confrontation instead of "and" which might suggest cooperation, but that was the first thought that popped in my head.

Anyway, the rhyming sound and the image of a bunch of NILFs with easy access to a load of MILFs set off a "story alert"in my brain.

Anybody else?

Replies:   julka  Soronel  Switch Blayde
julka ๐Ÿšซ

@JoeBobMack

I haven't seen the term NILF before! I've generally heard about the acronym NEET, Not in Education, Employment, or Training - so it describes a similar although somewhat broader situation. In Japan, where the term is reasonably popular, it comes with a connotation of antisocial tendencies or being a shut-in.

And yes, your story alert is hitting on something. There are vast reams of erotic japanese fiction, illustrated and non, about NEETs who are in conflict with their mother or mother figure - encouraging her son to go out and meet people by boosting his self confidence; making up for a lousy childhood; allowing the son to replace his own absent father figure etc etc. If it's the sort of story you're into, there's a lot of stories to get into!

Soronel ๐Ÿšซ

@JoeBobMack

The one I've heard is "NEEP" - "No education, employment or prospects"

Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@Soronel

The one I've heard is "NEEP" - "No education, employment or prospects"

NEEP and NILF wouldn't be equivalent.

NEEP is explicitly someone who has never had employment prospects beyond menial labor.

NILF on the other hand covers people who have voluntarily dropped out of the labor force due to any number of factors such as retirement or a parent dropping out to raise children full time.

Replies:   DBActive  Soronel
DBActive ๐Ÿšซ

@Dominions Son

NILF is important politically since the historically low rate of workforce participation we now have lowers the unemployment rate. That allows politicans to point to low unemployment as a indicator of a good economy while it is really the result of people simply giving up work.

Soronel ๐Ÿšซ

@Dominions Son

I was responding specifically to "NEET", I'd say "NEET" and "NEEP" are pretty much equivalent.

John Demille ๐Ÿšซ

@Soronel

The most common term is NEET:

Not in Education, Employment or Training

Switch Blayde ๐Ÿšซ

@JoeBobMack

Not In Labor Force. It means those who are neither working nor looking for work. For women, most of these are engaged in child care or household duties, but for men, they seem to be mostly engaged in screen-based activities.

I think that statement is mixing up "facts." I put "facts" in quotes because today you don't know if the fact is true, opinion, biased to make it seem true, or just made-up bullshit.

Anyway, Fact 1 is that there are less men in the workforce. But the reason for that is men and women are switching roles. More women are now the breadwinner and men talking care of household duties and the children.

Fact 2 is that men in that age group are more likely to be alone in a room participating on screen activities (porn, virtual/AI relationships, video games, etc.) than dating with a real live woman. I think the trend began before Covid, but exploded during the Covid lockdowns. That has nothing to them not being in the workforce.

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